미국커뮤니티 요약
(상세 내용은 하단부에 첨부합니다.)
비트코인 커뮤니티에서 요즘 이런 얘기들이 오가고 있대:사용 & 도입: 주소 수가 5,500만 개나 될 정도로 점점 쓰는 사람이 많아지는 것 같아. 초보자를 위한 꿀팁이나 DCA 같은 투자 전략, 그리고 좀 더 쓰기 편한 인터페이스(예: millibits)에 대한 이야기도 많고.가격 & 시장 예측: 가격이 앞으로 어떻게 될지, 바닥은 언제일지, 100만 달러에 팔 수 있을지 등등… 시장 상황에 대한 예측이나 분석, 그리고 “지금 쟤가 우리 비웃고 있을 듯” 같은 시장 심리도 엿볼 수 있어.비판 & 우려: 보안 문제(지갑에서 돈 빼는 문제, 사기 가능성), 경제에 미치는 영향(디플레이션), 하드웨어 지갑 품질에 대한 걱정도 있더라.철학 & 이념: 비트코인을 기존 화폐의 대안으로 보는 시각, 그리고 “비트코인에 대한 늙은 해적의 지혜” 같은 글도 올라와.커뮤니티 & 뉴스: 정모 얘기나 Bitfarms의 파나마 채굴 같은 뉴스도 공유되고 있대.결론적으로, 비트코인 커뮤니티가 암호화폐의 기술적, 경제적, 사회적 측면에 대해 다양한 고민을 하고 있다는 걸 알 수 있지.
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잔액이 0이 아닌 주소 수가 5,500만 개를 넘어섰습니다.
Posted by: /u/SmoothGoing |
Date: 3/16/2025, 9:51:31 AM
– 어느 정부에도 의존하지 않는 통화가 있다면 얼마나 좋을까…
Posted by: /u/Rolldice08 |
Date: 3/16/2025, 10:23:03 AM
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“Blockstream Green과 BlueWallet에서 트랜잭션 크기(vByte)가 왜 다를까요?”
Posted by: /u/Typical9Veg |
Date: 3/16/2025, 11:58:03 AM
Background on My Setup and Transactions
Imported the same seed phrase into both wallets.
My wallet contains only one UTXO.
Sending the entire balance to another address using either Green or BlueWallet.
Both sending and receiving addresses start with “bc1” (SegWit/Bech32/P2WPKH address).
Fee rate is set at 1 sat/vByte for simplicity.
Observations:
Performing identical transactions in both wallets shows differences in calculated transaction size:
Green wallet: 177 vByte (screenshot A.1).
BlueWallet: 340 vByte (screenshot A.2).
TLDR1:
Q1. Why does the same transaction (from one UTXO) result in different transaction sizes (and therefore fees) between the two wallets (A.1 vs A.2)?
Additional Findings (Green wallet):
I noticed larger calculated transaction sizes with higher sending amounts:
Sending 0.10001000 BTC: 141 vByte (screenshot B.1).
Sending 0.10001001 BTC: 208 vByte (screenshot B.2).
Note: The sole UTXO exceeds these amounts.
TLDR2:
Q2. Why does adding just 1 satoshi increase the transaction size significantly (B.1 vs B.2)? Aren’t both transactions considered 1-input 2-outputs?
Q3. Interestingly, sending the whole balance results in 177 vByte (A.1), which is a 1-input 1-output transaction, yet the size is between the two 1-input 2-outputs transactions above, any idea why?
Comparison with BitcoinOps:
According to BitcoinOps:
A 1-input 1-output P2WPKH transaction = ~109.5 vByte.
A 1-input 2-output P2WPKH transaction = ~140.5 vByte (+31 vByte).
TLDR3:
Q4. Why does Green wallet’s calculated transaction size differ from BitcoinOps’ suggested size?
Lots of questions here, but any insights on any one of them would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance!
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– 비트코인 번호판 발견 😲
Posted by: /u/Low-Reality-2373 |
Date: 3/16/2025, 1:08:56 PM
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– “아직도 이런 낚시에 속는 사람들이 있다니, 정말 짜증 난다 😡”
Posted by: /u/Rent_South |
Date: 3/16/2025, 1:11:55 PM
I remember the first warning of this back in 2010 on the Bitcoin forum.
“Titcoin, gitcoin, nitcoin, shitcoin.”
It was a premonition. People were bound to get burned chasing easy riches.
I was already annoyed in 2017 when the shitcoin wave took off. Not just because of what it meant for Bitcoin in the short term, distracting from its actual purpose, but because I knew millions of people were about to financially ruin themselves gambling on hype. The worst part is that many believed Bitcoin at one thousand dollars was too expensive and chose random scams instead.
And here we are, years later, with endless posts of people losing everything on meme coins and garbage projects that were always doomed to fail. I hate seeing it happen. If only people did not fall for these scams, everyone would win in the long run.
Thankfully, the trend is slowly shifting. Bitcoin dominance hit its lowest in 2017 and has not dropped that low since. The shitcoin casino is still open, but the house of cards is gradually collapsing.
Still, it is painful to watch this cycle repeat.
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2025년 3월 16일 데일리 토론
Posted by: /u/rBitcoinMod |
Date: 3/16/2025, 3:08:23 PM
If you don’t get an answer to your question, you can try phrasing it differently or commenting again tomorrow.
Please check the previous discussion thread for unanswered questions.
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## 주기도문하늘에 계신 우리 아버지,아버지의 이름이 거룩히 빛나시며,아버지의 나라가 오게 하시며,아버지의 뜻이 하늘에서와 같이 땅에서도 이루어지게 하소서. 🙏오늘 우리에게 필요한 양식을 주시고,우리가 우리에게 잘못한 이를 용서하듯이 우리 죄를 용서하시고,우리를 유혹
Posted by: /u/Potential_Disk2191 |
Date: 3/16/2025, 3:50:14 PM
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0.4 BTC에 도달할 가능성
Posted by: /u/PMB- |
Date: 3/16/2025, 4:48:42 PM
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– “큰 나라들만 비트코인을 산다…”
Posted by: /u/Fireinthehole_x |
Date: 3/16/2025, 4:51:00 PM
이번 주 영국 비트코인 모임 안내 🇬🇧🗓️
Posted by: /u/BitcoinEventsUK |
Date: 3/16/2025, 4:57:14 PM
🇬🇧 12 meetups across the country 💸 1 new Bitcoin-accepting business 🎉 3 upcoming events
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* Tangem 품질 문제* Tangem 품질 이슈* Tangem 품질 논란
Posted by: /u/Negative_Meringue119 |
Date: 3/16/2025, 5:53:07 PM
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세계 M2 통화량이 상승할 때마다 비트코인도 따라 움직였어. UPril(상승하는 4월) 맞을 준비 됐어? 🚀
Posted by: /u/DuckDuckMosss |
Date: 3/16/2025, 5:54:40 PM
소매업계가 비트코인을 이해하려면 거래소와 지갑이 기본적으로 밀리비트로 전환해야 합니다.
Posted by: /u/HealthyMolasses8199 |
Date: 3/16/2025, 7:34:32 PM
Most people here probably don’t realise how almost every normie looks at the price and goes “I can’t afford this”
Telling people they can buy a fraction of a bitcoin is dumb. We don’t tell people they can buy a fraction of gold. We use multiple units of measurement for everything else. We don’t say 0.005 gram. We say 5 milligram.
We need to normalize multiple units for bitcoin and the default unit should be millibit (0.001)
1 millibit is $84 USD at current price. It’s a more manageable unit for the average person
What’s the current price of iPhone 16e? 0.007 bi… No, it costs 7 millibit!
0.01 – bitcent
0.001 – millibit (mBTC)
0.000001 – microbit (μBTC)
0.00000001 – satoshi
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비트코인 코어 지갑에서 자금을 인출하는 데 어려움을 겪고 있습니다. 😥
Posted by: /u/tradezApp |
Date: 3/16/2025, 7:39:46 PM
I can’t seem to dump the keys and it gives me an error saying only legacy wallets are supported.
When I check the balance of mainwallet, it says 0, which makes no sense because checking on mempool, I can see its sub-addresses certainly have funds in them. And it says that I own these addresses.
This is so frustrating and I have nearly 10k stuck in this fucking wallet that I can’t access. I’ve tried to use ChatGPT to help but it cannot help.
Edit: Stop private messaging me, I promise you won’t be able to scam me.
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– 집단 지성의 힘으로 약세장 바닥 예측하기 🐻📉
Posted by: /u/freakuentlyGreg |
Date: 3/16/2025, 9:08:27 PM
I Can’t believe nobody started a poll trying to predict the bottom price yet.
Upvote the Bitcoin price you believe will be the ultimate bottom in the comments section
The last wisdom of the crowds post had 82k as the most upvoted guess price for dec 31 2024 which i personally think is surprisingly accurate considering the post was made in the beginning of 2024.
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– 걔 지금 우리 ㅈㄴ 비웃고 있음 🤣
Posted by: /u/Akesko |
Date: 3/16/2025, 9:52:53 PM
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알겠습니다. “I guess in 15 years…”를 한국어로 자연스럽게 번역하고, 이모티콘은 그대로 유지하겠습니다.”내 생각에 15년 후에는…”
Posted by: /u/Fit_Put_5648 |
Date: 3/17/2025, 1:07:42 AM
The Numbers:
⇒ Around 100 – 250k People understand Bitcoin deeply ⇒ Around 150M-350M People have exposure to Bitcoin
But more importantly: 98.4% of the population still has no clue!
Somewhere in the next 15 Years, we will live through the “suddenly” moment.
Don’t be in the 99%, be the 1%:
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– 세일러조차 비트코인 놈들을 좋아한다. 🤔 그런데 비트코인 놈들은 세일러를 좋아할까???
Posted by: /u/Fiach_Dubh |
Date: 3/17/2025, 1:41:00 AM
– 비트코인이 100만 달러가 되면 팔 건가요? 그게 당신의 상한선인가요?
Posted by: /u/Illustrious-Emu6440 |
Date: 3/17/2025, 1:44:14 AM
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– “사이클이 끝났다고 생각하는 사람들이 있다면…”
Posted by: /u/fukidiots |
Date: 3/17/2025, 1:56:48 AM
The Bitcoin cycle is about the designed scarcity and the inevitable liquidity crunch if demand remains relatively constant. This cycle we got a huge amount of new money and got a mini speculative bubble within this first year, and now a mini crash. But looking at past cycles 11 months in, being up roughly 20% is in line with previous performance.
Ultimately, I think the general prediction of 180k by September-October is not out of the question. We are just now coming back in line with the traditional cycle (that is more muted each round) and the early 109k ATH was an anomaly.
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0. 1 BTC 초기 투자와 월 100파운드(£) 분할 매수(DCA)를 가정하고, 저성장 시나리오(연평균 복합 성장률(CAGR)이 초기 63.3%에서 시작하여 5년마다 10%씩 감소)를 적용한 예측입니다.
Posted by: /u/Hi-archy |
Date: 3/17/2025, 2:04:55 AM
With this I decided to use 0.1 BTC and a DCA of £100 Per Month over the course of a few years.
Additionally I wanted to use a low growth scenario, where the CAGR starts at 63.3% and drops by 10% every 5 years for all the table forecasts
•CAGR Decline:
•Years 0-5: 63.3%
•Years 5-10: 53.3%
•Years 10-15: 43.3%
•Years 15-20: 33.3%
•Years 20+: 23.3%
The CAGR data was used from curvo https://curvo.eu/backtest/en/market-index/bitcoin
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DCA.
Forecast Table (£100/month DCA Contribution) Low, avg & high growth CAGR
Year Low Growth (CAGR: 63.3% → ↓10%) Average Growth (CAGR: 88.7% → ↓10%) High Growth (CAGR: 106.51% → ↓10%)
0 (Now) £1,200 (63.3%) £1,200 ( 88.7%) £1,200 ( 106.51%)
5 £13,567 ( 53.3%) £22,651 ( 78.7%) £38,253 (96.51% )
10 £80,342 ( 43.3%) £194,243 (68.7% ) £695,631 ( 86.51%)
15 £330,541 (33.3% ) £1,104,867 (58.7% ) £7,483,812 ( 76.51%)
20 £1,007,276 ( 23.3%) £3,678,343 (48.7% ) £43,239,825 (66.51% )
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0.1BTC
Forecast Table (0.1 BTC Investment at £6,500 Initial Value) Low, avg & high growth CAGR
Year Low Growth (CAGR: 63.3% → ↓10%) Average Growth (CAGR: 88.7% → ↓10%) High Growth (CAGR: 106.51% → ↓10%)
0 (Now) £6,500 (63.3%* ) £6,500 (88.7% ) £6,500 (106.51% )
5 £44,542 ( 53.3%) £80,036 (78.7% ) £152,759 (96.51% )
10 £251,462 (43.3% ) £622,961 (68.7% ) £2,394,036 (86.51% )
15 £880,406 ( 33.3%) £2,499,668 (58.7% ) £22,545,440 (76.51% )
20 £2,337,962 ( 23.3%) £6,870,502 (48.7% ) £119,053,317 (66.51% )
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Combined portfolio of 0.1 & DCA.
Forecast Table (0.1 BTC + £100/month DCA, Low Growth)
Year 0.1 BTC Only DCA Only (£100/month) Total Portfolio
0 (Now) £6,500 £1,200 £7,700
5 £27,438 £13,567 £41,005
10 £161,291 £80,342 £241,633
15 £663,640 £330,541 £994,181
20 £2,020,978 £1,007,276 £3,028,254
From the above hypothetical and highly speculative outcome, it shows that even if you were to DCA £100 everymonth, the returns are still great, and if you were to have 0.1BTC combined, then in 20 years your total portfolio coulf be worth multiple millions.
This is of course all highly speculative and hypothetical, and only for entertainment use.
I hope you enjoyed this.
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– “아하!💡” 하는 순간이 왔을 때, 제대로 감이 딱 잡히길 바라잖아…
Posted by: /u/Practical-Bank-4009 |
Date: 3/17/2025, 2:37:54 AM
Throughout my investing journey I buy and want an incline and nothing else. But after understanding bitcoin I want it to chill a bit longer before taking off so I can put more of my wealth into it, even for it to drop – when it drops it feels good!
I’m not sure how much time I want it to crab, or how much of my wealth I’d be happy to have in before it flies, but that’s something I’ve got to work out.
Anyone else on the same mindset?
31(m) UK
Currently at 0.13 BTC
DCA’n £20 p/d
Av price circa $90k (kraken for some reason can’t show me this – nice one kraken 👍I know I can work this out myself, but can easily be a feature
🙏 for $10m+ per BTC
HODL and take profits at life changing highs
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“나 비트코인 좀 있는데, 그냥 가지고 있을까 아니면 뭐라도 시작해볼까🤔?”
Posted by: /u/Cold_Bluejay_3528 |
Date: 3/17/2025, 3:13:42 AM
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– 🧐 이상하고 터무니없는 M2 통화량과 BTC의 관계 🧐
Posted by: /u/TheBase82 |
Date: 3/17/2025, 3:21:54 AM
Please be gentle, cause I don’t actually believe it myself but I thought it was fun to share it (it’s an obscenity, I know, but you should attached it to your fridge for a while just to don’t hurt my retailer feelings, lol).
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– 비트코인이 ‘디플레이션’ 성격을 띠는 것이 경제적으로 문제가 될까?
Posted by: /u/neilapril1987 |
Date: 3/17/2025, 3:50:55 AM
Is this going to be a problem if we move to a Bitcoin standard? I’ve always thought about this. People NEED to be spending money for the economy to even function, let alone thrive.
So how will the world work if most people holding Bitcoin never want to actually spend it? Bitcoin is a store of value after all.
What’s your thoughts on this and is it really going to be a problem or am I worrying about nothing here?
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“폐지 주워서 비트코인 만들기 프로젝트 시작한 지 6개월 됐어.” 🗑️➡️🪙
Posted by: /u/Red_Trout |
Date: 3/17/2025, 3:58:31 AM
The post I made also generated 26,910 sats via !Intips.
My winter haul of cans plus some random items brought in $19.25 which bought another 22,349 sats
So far the total 90,259 sats have a value of about $75.80 for just cleaning up
It’s been a fun little project and it’s been cool to see how an aluminum can picked up now can grow in value, exceeding the original scrap value
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“콜드 카드 퀄리티에 실망했어 😔”
Posted by: /u/theJEMJEM |
Date: 3/17/2025, 4:03:06 AM
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Bitfarms의 새로운 비트코인 채굴 시설이 🇵🇦 파나마에서 70MW 수력 발전으로 운영됩니다.
Posted by: /u/BitCypher84 |
Date: 3/17/2025, 4:14:57 AM
– 하루에 10달러씩 모으면 💸 법정화폐 걱정은 끝!
Posted by: /u/Murky_Ad7999 |
Date: 3/17/2025, 4:35:51 AM
“비트코인에 투자하는 가장 좋은 방법은 뭘까?” 💰🤔
Posted by: /u/jexouuu |
Date: 3/17/2025, 4:53:25 AM
I want to take advantage of this dip to invest in Bitcoin, what do you think is the best way?💰
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– 동네 7-eleven 편의점의 사탕 포장🍬
Posted by: /u/linky67 |
Date: 3/17/2025, 5:00:59 AM
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영화 “블로우”는 시대를 앞서갔다는 걸 알았지.
Posted by: /u/No-Newspaper8600 |
Date: 3/17/2025, 5:04:19 AM
r/Bitcoin의 일일 댓글 수가 상당히 감소하고 있다는 점이 흥미롭네요. 🤔
Posted by: /u/yalldusty666 |
Date: 3/17/2025, 5:56:48 AM
– 늙은 해적의 비트코인에 대한 지혜 🏴☠️
Posted by: /u/W-D-Goldbeard |
Date: 3/17/2025, 6:32:37 AM
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– 비트코인 입문자의 구매 여정 🚀
Posted by: /u/AdTemporary6697 |
Date: 3/17/2025, 8:11:44 AM
If I invest $500 for example it’s only a small fraction of a token so even though it may go up to 100k its only a fraction for me. Am I thinking about this correctly.
I will say buying bitcoin is addicting, I keep watching for any do to buy a little more.
Appreciate any feedback and suggestions.
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